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	<title>Comments on: Radical change is possible &#8211; Utopia Conference 2008 (Part I)</title>
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		<title>By: futurefacts</title>
		<link>http://blog.futurefacts.net/2008/11/16/radical-change-is-possible-utopia-conference-2008/#comment-50</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very helpful hint. Niels Boeing is absolutely right in many points. Actually, when I thought blogging about the conference, one idea was to focus on the inner tensions of the conference. There are rather different approaches, presuppostions and rhetorics of say a speaker selling &quot;social responsible investments&quot; and an other speaker reflecting the failed paradigm of our economic process.

I even wanted to start with a bitter joke on top but later cancelled it, not to confuse the reader. I wanted to &quot;streamline&quot; my text in the direction of a statement like &quot;after all utopia conference is a good start (since we have to act!)&quot;.

The joke: &quot;One attendee asking the other: Well we all want to save the planet, but be honest: How many Lexus do *you* have in your garage?&quot; (Lexus was sponsor). 

So I am concerned that change of mind does not go deep enough. E.g. maybe individual-mobility-as-a-car will fail and in ten years the idea to &quot;save the car  industry&quot; with billions could look totallly insane,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very helpful hint. Niels Boeing is absolutely right in many points. Actually, when I thought blogging about the conference, one idea was to focus on the inner tensions of the conference. There are rather different approaches, presuppostions and rhetorics of say a speaker selling &#8220;social responsible investments&#8221; and an other speaker reflecting the failed paradigm of our economic process.</p>
<p>I even wanted to start with a bitter joke on top but later cancelled it, not to confuse the reader. I wanted to &#8220;streamline&#8221; my text in the direction of a statement like &#8220;after all utopia conference is a good start (since we have to act!)&#8221;.</p>
<p>The joke: &#8220;One attendee asking the other: Well we all want to save the planet, but be honest: How many Lexus do *you* have in your garage?&#8221; (Lexus was sponsor). </p>
<p>So I am concerned that change of mind does not go deep enough. E.g. maybe individual-mobility-as-a-car will fail and in ten years the idea to &#8220;save the car  industry&#8221; with billions could look totallly insane,</p>
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		<title>By: Moritz Avenarius</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Greg Cravens video and argument:

The question is, for an action oriented person like me, what falls into category A &quot;yes-action&quot; in detail? What are &quot;good&quot; actions in terms of avoiding climate change? I doubt that we really understand all consequences what we are doing in their entire complexity. If it only means greener consuming behaviours, that could turn backwards. 

I found a nice example in the blog entry of Niels Boeing in the Technology Review (http://www.heise.de/tr/Der-Wahnwitz-des-Wachstums--/blog/artikel/117693), about how a 100 years ago the much more energy efficient tungsten filament in light bulbs replaced the carbon filament. As a result the tungsten became a successful mass product we are trying to get rid off today. 

So maybe we need to reduce our consuming behaviour much more radical as we can think of today - if we are capable of doing this ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Greg Cravens video and argument:</p>
<p>The question is, for an action oriented person like me, what falls into category A &#8220;yes-action&#8221; in detail? What are &#8220;good&#8221; actions in terms of avoiding climate change? I doubt that we really understand all consequences what we are doing in their entire complexity. If it only means greener consuming behaviours, that could turn backwards. </p>
<p>I found a nice example in the blog entry of Niels Boeing in the Technology Review (<a href="http://www.heise.de/tr/Der-Wahnwitz-des-Wachstums--/blog/artikel/117693" rel="nofollow">http://www.heise.de/tr/Der-Wahnwitz-des-Wachstums&#8211;/blog/artikel/117693</a>), about how a 100 years ago the much more energy efficient tungsten filament in light bulbs replaced the carbon filament. As a result the tungsten became a successful mass product we are trying to get rid off today. </p>
<p>So maybe we need to reduce our consuming behaviour much more radical as we can think of today &#8211; if we are capable of doing this &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Launching the eco-capitalism era - Utopia Conference 2008 (Part II) &#171; future facts blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.futurefacts.net/2008/11/16/radical-change-is-possible-utopia-conference-2008/#comment-44</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] First part of my coverage of the Utopia conference was about necessity and possibility of the coming transformation. This global transformation is politically, economically and technologically. How we shape things, connect material flows, structure systems, control communication, this is all about technology and design. Prof. Braungart reminded us about the &#8220;next industrial revolution&#8221;, he and William McDonough really did this for quite a while (The Atlantic 1998) and successfully. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] First part of my coverage of the Utopia conference was about necessity and possibility of the coming transformation. This global transformation is politically, economically and technologically. How we shape things, connect material flows, structure systems, control communication, this is all about technology and design. Prof. Braungart reminded us about the &#8220;next industrial revolution&#8221;, he and William McDonough really did this for quite a while (The Atlantic 1998) and successfully. [...]</p>
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